A Sober Girls Guide with Jessica Jeboult

In this episode, I had the opportunity to sit down with Jessica Jeboult, creator of A Sober Girls Guide, and hear her inspiring sober story. Jessica was a full time, travelling DJ in a past life. She's now an inspirational speaker, podcaster, and author. Tune into this episode to hear how she did it, and what wisdom and advice she has for those who are just beginning their sober journeys.

You can find out about Jessica's community at: https://www.asobergirlsguide.com/

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

Hi friend, this is Alex McGrobs, founder of the Mindful Life Practice, and you're listening to the Sober Yoga Girl podcast. I'm a Canadian who moved across the world to the Middle East at age 23, and I never went back. I got sober in 2019 and I now live full-time in Bali, Indonesia. I've made it my mission to help other women around the world stop drinking, start yoga, and change their lives through my online sober girls yoga community. You're not alone, and a sober life can be fun and fulfilling. Let me show you how. All right, hello everyone. Welcome back to Sober Yoga Girl Podcast. I'm super excited to be sitting here with Jessica Jabot. She is the founder of a sober girls guide, has um a really amazing account on Instagram, inspiring and connecting women all over the world and their recovery journeys. So I'm really excited to hear more about your story, actually. So welcome, Jessica. How are you?

SPEAKER_00 0:53

Thanks. Thanks. Thanks for having me. Yeah, I mean, this is different, right? Like tables have turned. Usually, like I'm asking the questions. But now I'm in the hot seat. So this is nice. I like this.

SPEAKER_02 1:06

Thanks.

SPEAKER_01 1:07

And you are so you're originally Canadian, which we share in common, but you states. What state are you in? You told me, but I can't remember.

SPEAKER_00 1:16

Mentally or physically. But either. Um physically, I am in Austin, Texas right now. Um, I just moved here last year and just loving every minute of it. Just it's my like, yeah, I'm I'm here, I'm here. I'm vibing with it. I love it. I'm staying. Oh, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_01 1:42

And I was wondering if you could tell me a little bit about your sober journey. Like from the beginning. Yeah, yeah. Tell me, tell me about life pre-drinking. What was that like? Or not pre-drinking sobriety, I guess.

SPEAKER_00 1:57

Yeah. Um so I back in the day, like when I was, I guess, when alcohol became like an issue or a bigger issue. You know, actually, like looking back, it's always been an issue. It hasn't been like just a casual affair that I've had with alcohol. It's been zero to a hundred, no looking back, like it's not, it's very black and white. Um, and I guess like high school, I was the party girl. I was the girl who was passed out on your friend's lawn after like a high school rager uh passed out in the bushes, got getting waked up by the sprinkler, you know, like that girl. And I thought it was like funny. And I thought everyone was like laughing with me and just like known as being like the fun party girl. I thought it was like a good time. Looking back on it, cringe, but you know, hindsight's 2020. Um, and like when I think back to this, like I was really acting out because there was a lot of things going on at home. There was like a lot, a lot of things. Um, my parents were getting divorced, which I know, like most people, their parents get divorced. Um, but for our family, it was like a free-for-all. Like we were free. When my dad left our family home, it was like the shackles were released, the gates were open, it was pure and utter freedom. And so, like, we all acted out. And when I say we, I mean my two brothers, and even my mom, like we were just like so free from having like my dad. Um his nickname was Hitler, so you can imagine how that dynamic was. Um, very abusive mentally, physically, emotionally, um, heavy on heavy on the emotional abuse. And so just having that gone and like out of your life and out of your home was awesome. I think I was the only kid who was so excited for their parents to be divorced. Like everyone was like traumatized and sad, and I'm like, yes, like let's go. How can I help you pack? How can we get you out of here? Um, and then like I kind of took over. Like, I'm I'm the eldest, I'm the the only girl, and I'm quite assertive, if you can't tell already. Um, but I kind of turned into like the dad role, you know. I kind of took charge of the household. Um, and I I really felt good in that position. Come to think, come to like learn now. I'm like, I think it's called a parentified child, is what the term is. So not like super healthy when you're 12 years old to be like stepping into your dad's shoes, but here we are. Uh I I think I gained a lot of it, like a lot of my drive and determination, and you know, um, I think like autonomy, I just really that's where it comes from, you know, at a young age, you know, I had to kind of parent myself. Um, and I was okay with that. Um, but I also, because I was the parent, I didn't get a lot of attention from parents. And also something else that happened at the same time as my father leaving. My youngest brother, um, he went blind, like fully blind. So he had a very rare form of cancer. He had both of his eyes removed, and I was just like so, so beyond traumatic for my parents. I think as kids, we had no idea like what the heck was going on. Um, and I I just knew I just remember everyone being really sad and like then having to kind of make all these adjustment adjustments, of course, because my brother was blind now. Um, but that also didn't stop us as kids. Like we would literally all ride our bikes down the lane. We would send that boy down the hill skiing. Like we treated him no differently. Um, so but with that, and of course, like your parents having a child who is sick, all their attention goes to that child. It's just natural, it happens. It's not my parents' fault, but I really that's when I really started acting out in school. Of course, being the drunk party girl, you know, leading into high school. Um, and just like doing just weird things, like for attention, like making out with like weird boys, um, just like anything, like for shock value, like telling people I was pregnant. Like, what? I hadn't even had sex at this point in my life. Okay. So, like, just just like the most all this stuff was purely for attention. It was like this young little baby girl screaming out for attention and alcohol, like really worked. It was really fun and really got like it got the job done. It got me that attention that I wanted and I craved. So after high school, um, a couple years in the city in Vancouver, and then I moved to LA. Again, looking for that attention in all the wrong places. Um, I also was a full-time DJ when I while I was living there. So that got me like a lot of attention. Um, and that also contributed to like my relationship with alcohol because being a full-time DJ in LA, you get free everything. And when I say everything, you get free all the alcohol you could ever want in your entire life. So that automatically was like a challenge. I'm like, cool, let's see how much we can get. Um, and drugs were definitely on the on the docket too. So, like anything and everything went. It was encouraged to drink while I was working. I think I have the only job where you were actually encouraged to drink, um, because you're essentially paid to party, right? Like the DJ is the party. Um, so yeah, I did that for many, many years. And then I just I just kind of looked around and I'm like, is this it? Like, is this my life? Like, I'm playing other people's songs. I'm getting wasted, I'm doing the stupidest shit you can ever imagine. Like literally hanging from chandeliers at nightclubs, like wrecking bars, wreck, like hurting myself, cheating on my partners, left, right, and center, like just you name it, like just so freaking selfish, like beyond selfish. Um and then also the anxiety started to kick in. Because if things weren't like great enough, um, I had such intense anxiety, and I really, really believe that like your body gives you signs, right? Like, first it's like little nudges, like, hey, maybe you should, you know, slow down a little bit, like take it easy, maybe not drink that much. And then the second, you know, layer is like an like a really strong like punch on the arm, like, hey, knock it off. And then the third notch is like a full on just swift kick right to the crotch. And it's like breathtaking. Um, and that's that's exactly what happened. I got all the warning signs, I've had rock bottoms that like people would be like, Oh yeah, then I would have probably stopped at that. But um, I discovered that rock bottom has a basement, um, actually like a couple layers to that basement. Um and yeah, I just really pushed it to the limit, like always, right? Zero to a hundred, black, very black and white. Um, I had anxiety so bad that I couldn't like keep my hands still to literally like change the tracks like while I was DJing, like which literally takes five to ten seconds. I was like just shaking out of control. I literally felt like I could crawl out of my own skin. Like it was the most just disgusting feeling. I was always stuffing myself with like carbs to try and like slow down my nervous system because I I actually felt like I could like come out of my body. I know that sounds weird, but like I could literally come out of my own skin because everything was inside of me, my mind, my nervous system, my breathing, everything was going so, so, so fast, fat, fat, fat, fast. And I just couldn't get a handle on it. Um, and that's because, like, I think partially looking back at it, like it was because of the drinking, obviously, like that did not help. But I was also doing a lot of stuff in my life that I didn't like. Like, I didn't like my job, it was not fulfilling. Like I said, every time I would be like, Is this it? Like, I'm literally playing other people's songs, and it was hard because, like, on paper, being a DJ in LA is like dream, right? Like, that's so many people's dream. But I just couldn't admit to myself that it wasn't mine anymore. And if it wasn't mine anymore, then like what else was I going to do? You know, I had all these responsibilities, I had all these bills that I had to pay, and this like lifestyle that I had to fund. Or so I thought, you know, keeping up appearances, such bullshit. Anyways, um, so yeah, that the anxiety got so bad, I started missing DJ gigs, and you know, that was that was my only job. That was my only source of income. I'm I'm my only source of income. Um, and I quickly saw, I'm like, okay, this is how people go homeless. Like this, this is very easy to do. Like you miss a couple gigs, you know, then you start missing bills and you start missing rent. You it's very, very easy, and it happens really quickly. And so I'm like, okay, this I'm like, I'm not gonna be homeless. I'm not gonna be on the streets. I can't, uh no, I'm too soft. I would not last a day on the streets of LA. Um, so what I did was I kind of went through my life with a fine tooth comb. And I'm like, okay, we're gonna have to pivot like careers and even just like mentally, like how we think of life or how we are doing life right now, because it's not working. And like having that like heart-to-theart talk with yourself and admitting that it's not working is like so much of it. Because I was honestly like lying to myself, like, no, I can do this, it's just this, or I just need to take out this part, or oh, maybe if I'm if I just have a nap or something, or maybe I was just grumpy, or I'm getting my period. No, like I just fucking didn't like what I was doing. Like, and I'm a very passionate person, as you can see. And if my whole like heart isn't into what I'm doing, then it's like again, very black and white. It's zero or a hundred. It's there's nothing in between, and I cannot half ass anything that I do, which is like my my double-edged sword, right? It's like a blessing and also a curse. I'm also the worst liar in the world. Um because I like if I don't like it, or if I don't like what's happening, or if yeah, I I can't fake it. Worst faker ever. Um so I started going through my life with a fine truth comb, and I'm like, okay, what do we like about what we're doing right now? And there wasn't a lot, it was pretty, pretty scarce of like what I was doing. And this was like on a day-to-day basis, even like you can even break it down like hourly and then build it out weekly and then monthly. And it's very clear why you're not happy. If you're if like nine, like 90% of the things I was doing, I didn't like. So duh, like you're not going to be happy. Um, and I'm not saying like everything, like you have to like everything that you do, or you have to, you know, be happy all the time. That's not true, but there has to be a part of you that sees like the bigger picture and is like, yes, like I cannot wait to do this because then this will come. Or there has to be some kind of attachment and alignment to something that you were doing, especially daily, especially as a job, right? Because if you're just doing something solely for money, you are screwed. You are so far gone that you build resentment, you begin to hate what you're doing, you begin to really watch the clock, you don't want to go a second over because you're not getting paid. So, like, why would I be there? But if you truly like love something that you're doing, you like you almost do it for free, right? And if you're just doing something for money, it just doesn't work. It's the worst thing in the world, I think, personally. So yeah, I admitted to myself that I was a depressed little girl living in LA that was doing a lot of things that weren't working, weren't in alignment, didn't feel great about. Um, and then I kind of I flipped it on myself and was like, okay, because it's it's really easy to list things that we don't like, right? Or we we that aren't working. But then you can go ahead and like do the opposite of that, right? Um, and so I I started thinking to myself, I'm like, okay, well, how do I want to feel? Like, how do I want to present myself? How do I want to act in like relationships? How do I want to be remembered? Like, how do I want people to describe me, you know, to their friends, to their loved ones? Like, how would they introduce me, you know? Um, and then I just kind of went from there. And alcohol wasn't in that version of myself. It wasn't a part, it didn't bring any pros to that version of myself. It actually really hindered and limited and made all those like really great things that I wanted for myself so much harder to achieve. Like running on sand, unnecessarily hard. Like just walk on the paved road, like come on, you know, like you don't need to struggle, you don't need to make life harder for yourself. Um, and so that was kind of like the beginning of the end, if I'm honest. And then if we're gonna get like specific, specific to like when alcohol like exited the scene or took a stage left. Um, I was actually DJing this New Year's party at um the Montage Hotel, Very Rizzi Hotel, uh down in the Orange County. And the rooms, also all the rooms are like ocean views. Okay, they're stunning. It's like a friggin' Nancy Myers movie. It's beautiful, like just picturesque, like the best. And I was like, there is no way in hell I'm waking up to this literal dream suite with a hangover. I don't care if it's New Year's. Like, I don't want to start a new year, I don't want to wake up in this dream and be hungover. Because that would make it a friggin' nightmare. You know what I mean? And I told my manager, I'm like, because they had a nice bottle of champagne waiting for me. I'm like, take it out. It's not happening. And that was the beginning of the end.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

You know, that's incredible how you like, I feel like there's two different sober stories, kind of I hear of like either like it's a big kind of battle to let go, or you just have like a switch flip, you know? And it sounds like you just had this, like, of course it was a battle and a challenge, but it it's amazing how you just were like, nope, this is like not happening. And it sounds like it just like have you been alcohol free since then.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

Yeah, but I I mean I want to I want to kind of back it up because like before that New Year's, yeah, I had tried.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Actually, you know what? I wouldn't say tried, I would say like forced myself. I I would literally like beat myself up for like drinking and be like, you're disgusting, you're doing all these insane things because you are a disgusting drunk, like degenerate. Get it together. Like I was bullying myself into changing my relationship with alcohol. You know, I was focused on all the negative and why like I should, like, you have to change, you have to do this, like in order. But as soon as I was like, okay, well, like who do I want to be? Like focusing on kind of like the secret, right? Like focusing on what you want, what you're working towards. It just made it so. So much more obvious. And I had this like clear vision of like, okay, like that's just not what this version of me does anymore. Like it just doesn't work. It's literally counterproductive. It's gonna set everything that I want three steps backwards. Like I take one step forward and it's like 10 steps backwards if you're drinking. Like you're literally making life so much harder than it needs to be. And when that kind of like kicked in, it was just a no-brainer. I didn't have to be hard on myself. I didn't have to bully myself. I didn't have to beat myself up. And I've tried many times. I've had people very concerned, very, very concerned about my relationship with alcohol when I should have been concerned about my relationship with alcohol. Um but that just never works. Like no one wants to be told what to do. I appreciate the people were concerned, love you, thank you. But like no one, you can't change anyone, right? So it's like you're kind of you're wasting your breath. Like the person has to figure it out on their own. They have to, you know, want to change their relationship on their own. It's what like what you say is just landing on deaf ears, to be honest. Like I have like when I say rock bottoms, and I had people being like, um, look at exhibit A. I'd be like, oh yeah, it's not that bad. Like that happened for a reason. Like, you know, like the writing was definitely on the wall, and it was in permanent marker, okay. But just wasn't ready, didn't hit my threshold. Yeah, yeah, didn't get it. It's almost like they were right, like the writing on the wall was like in Japanese. I don't speak Japanese, so it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

And so what year was that New Year's when you stopped drinking? How long have you been sober for?

SPEAKER_00 24:16

I've been sober, I'm coming up on eight years.

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Wow, congratulations!

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Yes, I kind of lost, I kind of lost track. I think I might have had like there was that New Year's, and then maybe I think I had a drink in like February of the year that I quit. And then I'm like, uh nope, this is for sure not happening. Um, so I tend I like celebrate my sober anniversary um in February. I don't know the exact date. I'm not a counter, that's like not my thing. It's also been like so long, I feel like now, like it's not gonna change. Like we're never gonna happen. Like, alcohol is not even on my radar, it's not on my ecosystem. It's just this is a way of life.

SPEAKER_01 25:12

Yeah, that's amazing. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_00 25:16

Woo!

SPEAKER_01 25:16

Congratulations, it's huge.

SPEAKER_00 25:18

Time flies when you're having fun.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

So, what were the sports in your early days of sobriety? Like, how did you get through that first early sober period?

SPEAKER_00 25:30

Oh my god, it was brutal. Like, it was not. I tried AA, wasn't my jam. Um, I definitely am a person who likes to be like motivated and inspired and see other people like doing like really cool things. I don't need to be reminded of things that I've done in my past. I beat myself up enough for that. I'm good. And also, like living in your past is not how you progress, like that's not how you evolve. That's what I think personally. Um, so I kind of stuck to, I mean, this is also eight years ago. The sober landscape was very different, like very, very different. So there wasn't really much out there. Um, but I was into yoga actually. I was very much into yoga, um, hot yoga in particular was my jam. Um, I remember going to this one particular studio in LA probably like three to four times a week because I was just like, first of all, I didn't know what the hell to do with myself. I had a lot of time, a lot of time on my hands. Um, and so that was also a way to like build friends and like community. And I just loved the challenge. Like you think you're getting good at yoga, and then like you step in class and it just like knocks you down. It's so rewarding, I think. Like it's always evolving, there's always kind of like moving pieces to that, and I really, really like that. Um, so yoga was a thing. I think uh non-alcoholic drinks were like slim to none. I think there was a couple non-alcoholic sparkling wines, which were great. I was so heavily into kombuchas, I still am into like kombucha, like that's also my jam. Um, and that like totally works for me. Like in social settings, love a non-alcoholic bevy, like they make my sober girl universe go round. Like, not only do I love it, like to see what is new and like coming out, but I just I love sitting and relaxing and like sipping on something kind of gross but kind of good at the same time, you know. Like I love a gross, kind of like curious y, weird drink. I know it sounds weird, but like like I love the vinegars, I love something different, not like super sweet. Um, yeah, just something that is an acquired taste. I think something that feels special. Um, I'm not really a sparkling water person, so yeah, just gives me gas to be honest. Very honest, but um what actually really helped me at the time is because I was, like I said, there was very limited resources, and I was kind of documenting and kind of going through like what was working and what wasn't, um and just like that accountability, like okay, like I'm gonna do a blog, like you know, every couple days, and just like having that to do was really kind of comforting and and gave me a purpose, really. So I think like starting a sober girls guide really helped me, and then I found you know, community and other like-minded people because I'm like, there can't, I can't be the only girl out there who like doesn't love AA, like wants something a bit different, um, and is a bit cheeky, for lack of better words, is about cheeky and like wants to be motivated, wants inspiration, wants to know like the sun is gonna rise and like you're gonna be okay, you know. So, yeah, I think starting a sober girl's guide really helped me too.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

At what point did you do that in your sober journey? I think I was like a year in. Yeah. And how did it start? Was it first just like was it Instagram? Was it the community the podcast?

SPEAKER_00 30:08

It was a blog, actually. It was a blog, and I was I was literally like documenting everything that I was doing. And one of my friends, well, it it's cool and it's not cool. So, like I said, I'm very cheeky, I am very sarcastic, I like to have fun, I think humor is healing, um, especially with you know topics that can be tough. You know, I I always say that that, yeah, there's tears, yeah, we talk about hard stuff, but at the end of the day, like we have a really good time doing it, and that kind of what keeps people, you know, involved and and coming back, you know, that sobriety doesn't have to be super scary. You can cry and then you can laugh five minutes later. You know, they're two can exist at the same time. Yeah, um, yeah, so I have the blog and one of my good friends, my good girlfriends from home, she's like, Okay, I read your blog, and I like it because I know you, like I know how you talk, right? But if I didn't know you, I would kind of think you're an asshole. And I'm like, you're not wrong, you know? I am a little cheeky, I'm a cheeky monkey, and she's like, I really think that people need something like a little more dimensional. You know, writing a blog is very one-dimensional, right? You have just words on a screen. Get it. She's like, I think you should have like a podcast and start like social media and really kind of like put some layers behind this. Because, like, you know, I I always say, Yeah, I'm a bit of an asshole, but like I'm also your asshole. You know, I have your back. I am a ride or die, you know, I'm a Taurus, I'm super loyal. Um, so she's like, put some like context, like add some layers to it so people can get to know you and understand you. And I'm like, that's a brilliant idea. And that's how the podcast has started, and then like social media, I think social media at first, and then the podcast. And then yeah, I just kind of haven't really looked back.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Amazing.

SPEAKER_00 32:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:39

And it's definitely one of the first big accounts that I came across in my sobriety. Like I've been following you for yeah, for close to six years, probably now, five, five years, five and a half, maybe. Um yeah, and and like I love, yeah, I love what you're doing. And I think you're yeah, you're funny, you're honest, you're uh people can connect with you. And and yeah, I just like that about you, that you are authentically you. And if people if it's too much for people, then they're maybe not your people, you know. So just keep it.

SPEAKER_00 33:13

You know, I'm not I'm not really trying to be everything for everyone. I I I get it, but like at the end of the day, like you said, like you you gotta be honest, right? Like, and I'm I I just can't not be honest, like I can't be a robot. Not really the point of this, yeah. So yeah, I say what I like, I say what I don't like, and I say how I feel.

SPEAKER_01 33:40

Love that.

SPEAKER_00 33:41

So tell me never try and hurt anyone's feelings. I never anyone's feeling, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

So tell me about the sober girl social club. Like, what do you get in it? What's the membership like?

SPEAKER_00 33:56

Yeah, so the sober girl social club is really, really important to me um for a for a couple of reasons. I understand that changing your relationship with alcohol is terrifying and you don't really know where to start, what to do. And we wanted to make it a really low barrier of entry, right? Like price-wise, accessibility-wise. We just wanted, if you have just even a whisper, you know, like, hey, maybe maybe I should change my relationship with alcohol, or maybe I should, you know, cut down my drinking, or like maybe this is something to talk about or investigate, right? Just a whisper. We wanted a place for people to go and and feel heard and understood, and have something that is accessible, right? So the Sober Girl Social Club is a monthly membership, it's $17 a month. You have live support circles, so you get live coaches. Um, I believe four days a week. Where I'm also in the midst of um getting a couple other coaches on board. So we're looking at really like having all of our bases covered there with more days. Um, we just switched our platform and it is so badass. Like, I am so excited about this platform. It's easy to use. We have so many tools in there. We have workbooks, journals. Um, there's this amazing worksheet that I created. Um, because my biggest thing is how do you like in order to um come out successful of a situation, I really like preparation, right? Like to be prepared for it. And so, like the best way to navigate stress is to like manage stress, right? And so, if we can manage like how you're feeling and and like just even the logistics of going into social situations, chances are you're gonna be so much more successful, you're gonna build that confidence, and it's like a rinse and repeat, you know, you're building that muscle, you're feeling better, and you keep going on this journey. You keep, you know, um reevaluating your relationship with alcohol. You see the benefits, right? We're not here to convert anyone. That's that's not our jam, but we just really want to be a different conversation, right? There is a life outside of the bar, there is a life beyond alcohol. Um, and so my mission with a sober girl social club is to make that very accessible. And right now we actually have a seven-day trial. You can sign up, cancel anytime. If you're like, hey, this isn't for me, I'm out, cool. But if you're like, hey, this is exactly what I'm looking for, great. Like again, just having a different conversation around drinking and what that looks like to change your relationship with alcohol.

SPEAKER_02 37:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:29

Love that. Um, and tell me about your I can't remember what your gummies are called, but the last time we spoke, you were talking, you're telling me about your your new gummies. Can you tell me about that?

SPEAKER_00 37:40

Yeah, so as if I'm not busy enough. Um so I created Vibe Gummies. They are they're they have no cannabis whatsoever, so no THC, no CBD. I'm just not like a fan personally, so I wanted to do something different. And there's so many other gummies that like you're covered, you know. But I am really into supplements. I love supplements and I love adaptogens, and I just love the benefits from um that I personally was getting from Ashwagandha was like a saving grace for me. Um, I had been on antidepressants off and on for probably like 10 years. Um, and I really wanted something more natural. Like every time I jumped on an on an antidepressant, even at the lowest dose, it was way too much for me. I would wig out every time. I've I've tried multiple brands, types, like you name it. It just wasn't for me. And so I've always wanted something more natural. Um, I found Ashwagandha, and that just like changed the game for me. So I made these gummies out of a selfish need. And um yeah, I I also hate taking pills, and so I'm like, how can we like put these in a delicious, yummy gummy that just like does what it's supposed to do? You know, doesn't get you high, doesn't put like a band-aid over the actual issue, but like something to really change your mood naturally. And so we have two types of gummies. We have the chill, which is definitely our bestseller. Um, and it's ashwagandha, L-theanine, gabba, lemon balm, and chamomile. So it's like the perfect relaxing blend. People use it as a substitute for like a glass of wine in the evening because it just like calms your nervous system. It doesn't make you sleepy or drowsy like a melatonin or something like that, but it calms you and preps you like for sleep. I think. I mean, I don't know about you, but sleep is a huge thing. Like sleep hygiene is my main, like, I am just so obsessed with sleep. Um, and that's like a big thing. People just expect to be like living these super busy lives, super stressed out during the day. And they're just like, okay, cool, it's time. Like, let's just shut off the lights and like hit the sack. And then they're like, wait, why am I not going to sleep? Why am I having these ruminating thoughts? Why am I waking up at 2, 3 a.m.? Your body needs to like prep and decompress and you know, prepare for sleep. Imagine that. And then our other gummy is an energy gummy, and it is a clean caffeine. So it's green tea, green coffee bean, and vitamin B12. So even me who is not like a huge caffeine person, I don't drink like caffeinated coffee. I'm a decaf gal all the way.

unknown 41:08

Woo!

SPEAKER_00 41:08

Um, I actually really love these energy gummies because they don't give you like that jittery anxiety feeling. When I drink coffee with caffeine, it's like a full-blown, like I'm just thrown into an anxiety attack. It's brutal. But these are great. It's like a nice controllable dose. It is like again, clean caffeine with the green tea. I just love them. I mean, I made them for myself. And then people are like, what do you got going on there?

SPEAKER_01 41:41

Oh, cool.

SPEAKER_00 41:42

Yeah, and then I turned it into like a business.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

I wish I could get these in Pali. You know, when I when you first like a couple months ago, I didn't really ask you any questions. Um, and I was like not that interested. And now that I've asked you, I'm like, this actually sounds sweet. Like I would love to try them. Yeah. And they actually taste amazing. Like so good. And maybe I'm gonna be in the states in uh in I'm coming to Arizona. Actually, I'm coming to Arizona in um oh no, you're in Austin. You're not in Arizona. No, no. So it's with May. It starts with an A, yeah. Um I'm I'm gonna be uh in the States in A May, May. And so maybe I can get some delivered to my hotel because that would be totally yeah. Yeah, let me know. I'll send some to you. Amazing. Yeah, I mean okay. I have one question for you, which is um if someone's listening to this who's like newly sober or super curious, wants to quit drinking, what wisdom or what advice would you give to them?

SPEAKER_00 42:46

Just start. Just start. Just stop thinking about it, get out of your own way, and just take action. Just start. Because talk is cheap. We could be talking about what we should do or what we could do. Just try something. Just try something new, something different. And like also sobriety is so much funner with like-minded people. That's like a fact. So just start. Drinking's always gonna be there. You can always go back if you want, but I don't know. Stop talking about it and just take action. Simple.

SPEAKER_01 43:37

Love that. Simple, but not just but not easy. Awesome. So great to connect with you. So inspiring to hear your story. I think you're doing amazing work and uh and very needed. And um yeah, keep it up.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Thank you so much for having me.

SPEAKER_01 43:55

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